Olympic Astronomy
This came about from a conversation with Nicholas Kollerstrom at the National Astronomy Meeting. Having worked on how Delphi’s oracle was timed, he suggested that I look into the Olympics. This seemed like it should be comparatively easy, not because you only have to explain one year in four, but because he more or less gave me the answer during the talk. The Olympics, he said, could be tied to the Venus cycle.
I should point out that if I had read the Da Vinci Code then I would have known this would be a dead end.
Venus is a peculiar planet to observe. The ratio of the orbits of Venus and Earth is extremely close to 8:5. This means that if you observe Venus one night and then come back at the same time eight years later then you’ll see Venus in almost exactly the same place in the sky. This has been used by cultures as diverse as the Mayans and the Babylonians (see Anthony Aveni’s Conversing with the Planets). The Greeks got a lot of the astronomical knowledge from the Babylonians, so it seemed plausible.
It became more interesting when I looked at the night skies over Olympia around the time of the ancient Olympics. The first recorded games are in 776 BC. I don’t know the exact time of year they were held, because the evidence is confused and contradictory, but August-ish would seem to be a fair approximation. This is exciting because at this time Venus is visible just setting after sunset. This is the sort of thing that Hesiod, who wrote a book which included astronomical tips, was looking for. So it all seemed to match what I knew of Greek astronomy. Of course this would only happen every eight years, and the Olympics happened every four years. Unless you were Greek. The Greeks thought they happened every five years.
They called the Olympics a Penteric festival, and thought the cycle worked something like this.
Year One: Olympic Games
Year Two: Isthmian and Nemean Games
Year Three: Delphic Games
Year Four: Isthmian and Nemean Games
Year Five: Olympic Games
The counting was inclusive. Five is a terribly exciting number if you’re interested in Venus because of this 8:5 ratio I mentioned. Venus makes five different appearances in the morning sky, and five different appearances in the evening sky during this eight year cycle.
Even more excitingly later authors like Geminus record there was an eight year cycle used to determine Olympic dates in later times. It was a cycle of ninety-nine lunar months, with periods of forty-nine and fifty months between the games. Then the earlier appearances of Venus are roughly ten months earlier, and the earliest heralds were said to leave Olympia to announce 10 months of sacred training time before the games. In the archaic period Venus was thought to be a twin of two heralds Eos, herald of the dawn, and Phosphoros, herald of the evening. When you add in that the Delphic Games were originally held on an eight year cycle then you can become slightly blinded to the problems.
And there are problems.
I’m certainly not the first to look into this Venus correlation. Up till the 1920s there were a few people looking at it and you can find people blithely stating that the Olympics were tied to the cycle of Venus. But when you actually try and find a reference that they cite for this you I couldn’t find any reference to ancient material.
Then there’s the problem that the Olympics are every four years rather than eight. What happens in the other half of the cycle? Venus is visible in the morning sky, but it’s not doing anything spectacular when it happens. You’d struggle to use it to calibrate a calendar like you could for the 776 appearance. But the biggest problem happens when you think what Venus was thought to be.
The Venus cycle in Babylon was a fertility festival. It was celebrated as Ishtar which could be transposed into Greek mythology as not just as Aphrodite, but also Artemis and Athena. In any event it seems to be a celebration of feminine fertility. So how did the Greeks celebrate this at the Olympics?
They got a couple of blokes to strip naked and try and punch their opponent unconscious.

Two blokes fighting on a vase. Photo from Pankration Research Institute.
There were other events too, but the ancient Olympics were a masculine event. Women were barred from the sanctuary, so it there’s a real problem if you want to hold on to the idea that the Olympics were a Hellenised form of the Venus festivals of Babylon. There’s correlation certainly, but not causation. It seems more likely that the Olympics were held every four years because the Greeks were happy with that for other reasons and Venus had nothing to do with it. It’s not as if four is a difficult number to count to, particularly if you have friends across the Greek world helping.
But this is interesting because without the historical evidence from Babylon we wouldn’t know what the Venus festival was about and could easily jump to the wrong conclusion. What you usually find in the archaeological record are correlations. Making the leap to causations is tricky. Without historical evidence it might be that there is little we can say about prehistoric astronomies.
So if I do seem convincing about prehistoric astronomy sometimes, bear in mind I could be dead wrong.
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about 4 years ago
DaV C poses a whole lot of information as ABSOLUTE TRUTH, when a lot of it is just hearsay, rumour and legend. Have spent 10 months looking at the stories behind the stories behind the stories (hence just beginning to learn the classical Greek). So, is there evidence of the Olympics on the semi-cycle of Venus? I am still unclear.
about 4 years ago
No.
It might look like there is, after all what are the chances that so many features of the Venus cycle would fit the Olympics? But that’s not a very good way of assessing the probability that it’s due to chance. After all if any Greek festival matched the Venus cycle then that would be equally convincing.
So should we ask what are the chances that one one of many Greek festivals should match the Venus cycle? Again no. Without historical evidence to suggest the Venus cycle then any other easily spotted cycle would be just as plausible. So in fact it’s more like asking “What are the chances that one of many Greek festivals should match one of many astronomical cycles?” And in the case of the Olympics you’d have to ignore all the historical context, like that it was a male-only event to make it fit the astronomical evidence. So despite the correlation seeming to be impressive, the fact you find it as just one site isn’t impressive enough.
The problem is when you find something equally convincing from the prehistoric period. Luckily in the case of the Olympics we have a lot of historical data which proves I’m wrong. But if we were talking about a prehistoric site, we’d lack the cultural knowledge to know anything about the site. Again there are thousands of prehistoric sites, and plenty of interesting astronomical things for them to interact with.
Some of the major archaeoastronomical site must surely be flukes of geography, the problem is which ones?
about 4 years ago
At last, a positive answer!!! (even though the positive answer is a negative!)
about 2 years ago
Although the Olympic games are ‘two blokes pounding each other’, it is possible that the correlation does exist between Babylonian fertility cycles and a possible Venus correlation. The mention of Ishtar, Aphrodite, Artemis, Athena…In the Egyptian Ogdoad and most ancient myths, initial formless-ness is characterized by duality (opposites) and gender. In the Ogdoad, the goddess makes up or leads the dual pair, and the male or god exists as a counterpart extending from the female. This is not a matter of sexes… but a matter of characterization involving forces of masculine and feminine or negative and positive. A positive/masculine force is seen as dominant or initiative, whereas a negative/feminine force is considered receptive. Neither force is greater than the other, but both are required. (The male extension of the goddess could be interpreted as the dominant iniative, the desire for creation to take place from the goddess.Many ‘male’ deities symbolize creation.) This is evident in the archaic/older goddess Ishtar being equated with Athena, the war goddess. (Neith in Egypt is also said to have syncretized with Athena.) Both embody the feminine essence and the male dominance…GODDESS of WAR. Artemis is also a hunter and associated with dominant or ‘traditionally male to us’ forces. The historical fact that the Olympic games of Greece didn’t allow women at that time is purely cultural for that era, without regard to causation. Venus is tied to Aphrodite, and also equated with love and jealousy, the Bull, stubborn and unyielding (a masculine extension of a feminine ‘gender’). The ‘common sense’ of that era was also ‘As Above, So Below’… this is often strictly interpreted as mirror images of a macrocosm reflected in a microcosm and/or vice versa, however, in relation to Venus, four years could very well be four phases of venus, 1/2 of the larger 8, because Venus appears larger as it gets closer to us, but the visible light decreases by the same ratio as the size increases. Better still interpreted considering the mention of dividing Venus into Eos, Phosphorus, twins in opposing aspects or 1/2s of a larger cycle (2)4=8. If there is evidence of the Greeks thinking the games occur every five years, what is the 1/2 point between recurrence when counting? New (1), Waxing crescent (2) First Quarter (3) Gibbous (4) Full (5)…Gibbous (6)Quarter(7)waning crescent (8)…5 is a “Full” Venus…may have no bearing though. Five is also a prime number which tends to symbolize a perpetual motion, a cycle, or spin, or rotation, and the ‘higher’ venus cycles if mapped would appear to create a pentacle in the sky. This being a correlation to Greek history with the Ophic cult, the Five ‘Hidden’ and Pythagoras. These are merely suggestions. But it opens up the possibiliy of a correlation to Venus cycles. In history/myth, an exact match is rare due to the human factor and shifts in ‘conciousness’ or how information is understood and practiced in the era.